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   March 26, 2008 @ 4:32 am

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3. Benedict said,

   March 26, 2008 @ 5:59 pm

   I’m marketing manager Benedict from ThinkFree.
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   Followings is about that.
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4. Evan said,

   March 28, 2008 @ 6:09 am

   Since it’s written in Java, I assume that the offline software will still support Linux. Is that correct? I sure hope so. I use ThinkFree online/offline on all three major operating systems, depending on where I am at the time. Thanks!

5. Eragon said,

   March 29, 2008 @ 6:58 am

   And since I use only Ubuntu on my home computer, I to hope that offline office suite will support linux!

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7. Max Rockbin said,

   March 31, 2008 @ 10:45 am

   I’ve used google online apps and have switched to Zoho and use it every day. But the huge and obvious problem with all the online office suites I’ve tried is PRINTING. Zoho Writer, for example, does not support landscape mode (no foolin. I emailed their support and they said they hope to have that “soon”). Even in portrait mode, they warn that you may not print what you see on the screen and you have to go to PDF as an intermediary step to really print WYSIWYG.

   If you’re not planning on printing, you probably don’t need a word processor. A text processor (or blog editor) would probably make more sense.

8. Benedict said,

   March 31, 2008 @ 7:33 pm

   I’m marketing manager Benedict from ThinkFree.
   Yes, right.
   ThinkFree rightfully support landscape and portrait mode.
   What you see is What you print out !

   In the early stage, ThinkFree online was proud of compatibility with MS Office
   We also support the interoperability with MS Office 2007 products in the new version.

   Please keep your eyes on our new version on April 7th ….
   Thanks

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11. Yannick said,

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    Do you have any plan to add also support to the opendocument format (used by openoffice)? Products like zoho for example provide it.

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12. Benedict said,

    April 3, 2008 @ 8:10 am

    I’m marketing manager Benedict from ThinkFree.

    In the new version on 7th, April 2008, ThinkFree have the interoperability with Open XML(OOXML) certified by ISO.

    Rightfully, We plan to include that format in the ThinkFree server version.

    Please keep your eyes on our new version on April 7th ….
    ThinkFree will strike back.
    Thanks

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    April 6, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

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23. W^L+ said,

    April 7, 2008 @ 8:54 pm

    Hey, Benedict, are you going to support OpenDocument Format (ODF)? In real life, I have come across less than ten OOXML documents, but a lot of ODF files. If you’re going to be relevant, especially in Europe, you will need ODF support.

    Also, here in California and in other states, we’ve been looking at possibly standardizing on the truly open ODF format for gov’t business. If you have not yet implemented ODF support, I encourage you to do so.

24. Mike Benton said,

    April 8, 2008 @ 11:16 am

    Hi,

    How can we access the mobile version of Thinkfree? What devices does it support and which ones are planned in the near future? I’m hoping you plan support for Windows Mobile Standard and Professional as we do a lot of document editing and there isn’t a good solid mobile sync for documents available.

    Thanks for Thinkfree!

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26. Marco said,

    April 8, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

    Well, I don’t need to mention that ThinkFree Office is after Microsoft’s Office the best office application. Every smart person already knows that.

    What I want to ask you… is there a way that Thinkfree could add a ‘favicon’ to the html / php web page of the members area (http://member.thinkfree.com/).

    It would make life so much easier, especially if you have many bookmarks and just look at the icons in your browser’s toolbar.

    Thank you in advance!

27. Benedict said,

    April 8, 2008 @ 9:14 pm

    I’m marketing manager Benedict from ThinkFree.

    for Mike Benton
    –>Currently, You can gather informations about ThinkFree Mobile Version
    and also you can request try version from below link !
    http://product.thinkfree.com/mobile/99
    In the early stage, We sold the iPod version but now don’t sell.. because we are resturcturing our mobile product lineup and trimming the our prodcut strategy in mobile business field. We plan to release the smartphone version in 6 Months. and also We are developing the GSM or CDMA Cell version.

    for Marco
    –> Yes,, You brought up a good point….Ok
    We will add the favicon in 1Weeek,,,Thanks

    Thanks…

28. Kim B. Christensen said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 2:56 am

    Benedict, do i read this right?

    You won’t support ODF, because it does not suit Microsoft’s strategy?

    If this is correct, i fail to see the ‘free’ in ThinkFree…

    Please notice - most European governments and organisations look heavily into ODF right now, because of interoperabillity issues with Microsoft, and because ODF is supported by a multipla of suppliers - there is no vendor lock-in.

    A very large community supports ODF: OOXML is a community of one. Aren’t you afraid to bet your money on a dead horse?

    Have fun, folks!

29. Walter said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 2:59 am

    As far as I’m aware, Microsoft Office 2007’s .docx format is NOT the same as OOXML recently certified by ISO (through what I might add was a highly controversial apparently manipulated fast-track process.) They are admittedly similar of course.

    Nevertheless, I’m therefore curious, are you actually intending to support MS Office 2007’s .docx format, or OOXML as published by ISO, or both, or what?

30. Liam said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 3:19 am

    Also, if Microsoft are stopping you from implementing ODF in any way: that’s anti-competitive behaviour, and should be reported to European Competition Commission.

    http://ec.europa.eu/comm/competition/index_en.html is a start, don’t let them get away with anything. Also let your plight be known, widely and as publically as possible, this is the only way to make MS back down.

31. Steve said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 3:30 am

    I’m going to have to agree with Liam above: if you’re not implementing ODF out of fear from Microsoft, there’s some seriously wrong with that picture. You can implement ODF without having the kinds of trouble that dog OOXML.
    If you are having trouble, chances are this is not the first time it’s happened, so speak up- if there’s one thing the Internet’s good at, it’s forcing people to change from bad positions to less bad positions; it can work for you too!

    Having said that, I’d be interested in an online office suite such as yours, and considering some of the commenters think you are second to none, I’d certainly love to give you a try- but my concerns above make me somewhat hesitant to try it.

32. Sander Marechal said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 3:37 am

    Hi Benedict,

    You wrote:

    > We are also considering the ODF support in ThinkFree.
    > By the way, There is one obstacle for solving the problem…
    > That is MS Policy for ODF, Because of interoperability with MS Office
    > in ThinkFree,
    > We still need the MS cooperation that support OOXML,,,

    Can you tell us more about the MS policy? Do you have it on paper? Can we see it? I am very interested in these issues. Feel free to e-mail me privately about this if you do not want to post about this on the blog.

    Kind regards,

    –
    Sander Marechal

33. Wu MingShi said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 4:21 am

    Dear Benedict,

    You wrote:
    > Because of interoperability with MS Office in ThinkFree,
    > We still need the MS cooperation that support OOXML,,,

    I am surprise that you need MS cooperation to support OOXML. Isn’t it already an ECMA standard which you can implement??

    MSOffice does not support ODF, I know that, and I don’t care about it. However, you can still always offer an ODF option for those who do not want MSOffice interoperability.

    If you made a decision not to support ODF, then just say it. Don’t use Microsoft as your shield. It is your decision to make, but you should be prepare to defend the decision, like taking the heat from Mr Nobody, e.g., me.

34. Orlando Marcelo said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 4:49 am

    Hi, I’m from Misiones, a state from Argentina.

    Here, the government ( in a wyse decision ) has mandated that “[a]ny electronic document created or generated by the state government of Misiones/Argentina aimed to store and distribute information to state offices and employees must use the OpenDocument format ( ISO/IEC 26300 specification ).” (*)

    Please support ODF , so we can add ThinkFree to our list of available office software suppliers for the next call for tenders.

    Thanks in advance

    (*)
    http://www.ccpm.misiones.gov.ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=38
    http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments

    Orlando Marcelo
    MIsiones - Argentina

35. Vexorian said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 5:09 am

    am surprise that you need MS cooperation to support OOXML. Isn’t it already an ECMA standard which you can implement??

    6000 pages that require reverse engineering and you need MS’ blessing not to get sued anyways, ECMA/ISO standardization does not fix this.

    .
    You can implement ODF and not lose the previous ‘previous’ MSOffice interoperability, nobody is asking to replace the current format with ODF.

36. Steve Brown said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 6:20 am

    To protest MS’s blatant buyout of the ISO (I Sold Out) and to fight their obvious attempt to extinguish ODF I will not use any office suite, online or off, that does not fully support ODF.

37. Paracil said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 6:26 am

    I think you should support ODF. Do not let Microsoft push you around!

38. Jack Waldron said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 6:38 am

    I’m afraid if you do not support ODF, then your service is useless for me. All of my company’s documents are archived in ODF. While my company uses multiple formats (Doc, PDF, ODF), it is a requirement to have ODF support for archiving purposes. Also, you say you will be implementing OOXML as per the new ISO standard, will you also support Microsoft’s non-compliant docx format which is not the same as OOXML?

39. SPM said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 6:59 am

    There is no reason why ODF shouldn’t be supported as well as OOXML. One should not be conditional on the other unless Microsoft is using financial incentives, threats, license/contract conditions, or bribes to induce Thinkfree not to support ODF. This would of course be illegal and is in breach of various anti-trust laws.

    The EU anti-trust authorities are currently investigating Microsoft with regard to OOXML, and if anybody has any inside information or evidence of such activities, they should report it to the EU authorities, even if they are outside the EU.

40. rg said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 9:39 am

    Could you please elaborate on:

    “We are also considering the ODF support in ThinkFree.
    By the way, There is one obstacle for solving the problem…
    That is MS Policy for ODF, Because of interoperability with MS Office in ThinkFree,
    We still need the MS cooperation that support OOXML,,,
    I think you can understand this situation & MS policy strategy…”

    It is not at all clear why MS ‘policy’ on a ’standard’ that is not implemented by any known application should interfere with your implementation of an already existing standard (ODF) that I and many others use on a regular basis.

    You have had multiple requests here for ODF, yet you do not implement it. When asked why you say because of MS policy.

    That requires explanation.

41. Beetastic said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 9:47 am

    quote:
    I’m marketing manager Benedict from ThinkFree.

    In the new version on 7th, April 2008, ThinkFree have the interoperability with Open XML(OOXML) certified by ISO.
    /quote

    As of 10th, April 2008, ISO has not published the OOXML standard.
    How can you claim interoperability with a standard that doesn’t exist?

42. Uwe said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 10:27 am

    Thinkfree sucks!

    After your Revolutionary change and think on April 7th, 2008 I lost my account and all my files !!!!!

43. IJ said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 11:08 am

    > MSOffice does not support ODF, I know that, and I don’t care about it.
    > However, you can still always offer an ODF option for those who do not want
    > MSOffice interoperability.

    Supporting ODF really should have absolutely nothing to do with supporting Office interoperability. Technically, I don’t see why you couldn’t have both. About all I can see going against inclusion of ODF support is Microsoft pressuring ThinkFree’s devs into excluding ODF support in ThinkFree.

    All the issues I see here are not technical, but entirely political and/or legal. Legal, well, I don’t know. That’s entirely up to Microsoft’s legal eagles and how they want to license OOXML. Political, oh most definitely. I don’t think this needs any explanation.

    Microsoft talks interoperability. That’s just the problem. That’s all we have from Microsoft: talk. Until I see concrete action, I have no reason to believe Microsoft will reform.

    –IJ.

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45. Benedict said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 6:51 pm

    I’m marketing manager Benedict from ThinkFree.
    So sorry, There are some mistakes and misunerstanding about supporting the ODF.

    I want to clear those misunderstadings.
    My previous comment is my personal view and not official…
    MS and ThinkFree have nothing to do with the matter.

    I’m definitely in favor of your opinions.
    We, and ThinkFree is proud of interoperabillity of variable document format. and
    general user’s needs.

    We plan to release the official positions of ThinKFree about supporting the ODF.
    First of all,,, I hope to support the ODF format !!!

46. Mike said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 6:53 pm

    All of my company’s documents are archived in ODF, too …
    And work with Linux.

    So please support ODF and help us Thinkfree to be our choice.
    Thank you!

47. Taeyoung said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 10:22 pm

    This is Taeyoung at ThinkFree. I’m the product manager of ThinkFree Office.
    Let me clarify some of your concerns with ODF support as there were some misunderstanding with our policy and strategy.

    Basically, every feature of ThinkFree Office was designed for the interoperability with Microsoft Office and we use Microsoft Office formats as the default format of ThinkFree Office. ThinkFree Office reads & writes OOXML-format documents and it can convert old binary formats into OOXML. It was easier for us to get compatibility with OOMXML with the help from the nature of the compatibility we’ve improved over the last 10 years.

    On the other hand, in order to get interoperability with ODF, we need to learn more on the real usages. We are not quite sure whether we should provide round-trip compatibility which is our basic policy for interoperability. What if ThinkFree Office opens an ODF that includes unsupported features or property which directly affects to rendering the document layout/style? What if a user saves the original ODF document using ThinkFree office? Do you need one-way interoperability? We would need some more time as we’ve just reached our 1st milestone for XML-based interoperability. The good news is that it would be easier for us to get ODF interoperability once we complete the development for OOXML support. And it doesn’t mean we decided to drop support for ODF.

    FYI, we don’t support the late breaking features of Microsoft Office 2007 at the moment.

    We appreciate your valuable comments.

    Thanks,
    Taeyoung

48. Taeyoung said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 10:28 pm

    Uwe said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 10:27 am · Edit

    Thinkfree sucks!

    After your Revolutionary change and think on April 7th, 2008 I lost my account and all my files !!!!!

    Uwe, you seem to have forgot your password. Without successful 1st sign-in within ThinkFree Manager, you won’t be able to see documents. ThinkFree Manager will sync your online storage with your desktop. It will redownload all of your documents. And if you’ve used ThinkFree Premium client, your previous copies of documents should be kept in your document directory.

    Please contact our support team (support@thinkfree.com) if you still have problems.

49. Taeyoung said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 10:35 pm

    Boycott Novell » Microsoft’s Secret Anti-ODF Deals said,

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50. Taeyoung said,

    April 9, 2008 @ 10:41 pm

    #
    Mike Benton said,

    April 8, 2008 @ 11:16 am · Edit

    Hi,

    How can we access the mobile version of Thinkfree? What devices does it support and which ones are planned in the near future? I’m hoping you plan support for Windows Mobile Standard and Professional as we do a lot of document editing and there isn’t a good solid mobile sync for documents available.

    Thanks for Thinkfree!

    Hi Mike,

    We plan to roll out mobile edition of ThinkFree office which would require J2SE 1.5 or higher. We also plan to add mobile access to our online service so that you could access (read/share) your documents anywhere, anytime. However, editing document would require Java Runtime which is not available for Windows Mobile.

    Thanks,
    Taeyoung

51. Sander Marechal said,

    April 10, 2008 @ 12:48 am

    > On the other hand, in order to get interoperability with ODF,
    > we need to learn more on the real usages. We are not quite
    > sure whether we should provide round-trip compatibility which
    > is our basic policy for interoperability. What if ThinkFree Office
    > opens an ODF that includes unsupported features or property
    > which directly affects to rendering the document layout/style?

    The majority of ODF users use OpenOffice.org or one of it’s spin-offs (StarOffice, Lotus Notes) so go for round-trip compatibility with OOo. As for unsupported features, simply implement them. ODF is a whole lot cleaner, simpler and more consistent than OOXML is. Implementing it should be a breeze.

    I hear that the KDE is working on a stand-alone open source ODF parser. Perhaps you could use that.

52. W^L+ said,

    April 10, 2008 @ 6:01 pm

    ODF is a simpler format, without the IP landmines inherent in OOXML, so once you make up your mind to do so, it should not be as difficult. You should target round trip for OpenOffice and test KOffice compatibility as well. An interesting thing I’ve found is a Firefox extension for viewing .odt files (ODF word processing documents), so the universe of ODF uses is growing quickly.

    Until ODF is supported, however, I agree with Jack that ThinkFree is basically useless to me in most of my usage scenarios. I am looking forward to using your implementation, so don’t give up.

53. Vexorian said,

    April 11, 2008 @ 8:35 pm

    Errata: My previous comment was supposed to have the word precious enclosed by quotes, instead of ‘previous’.

    Gosh I should learn to proof read my comments before submitting them.
    –
    Notice there’s an online office application from some web giant that I do not want to mention, and it supports ODF already. Regardless of any format war, availability of ODF is a competitive advantage, there are already cases in which ODF is required by people, and a couple of European governments that have declared already they will stick to ODF for official matters and avoid MS’ formats.

54. Uli said,

    April 20, 2008 @ 1:39 pm

    Hi,
    I just tried Workspace Beta. Nice tool and easy to set up projects, tasks and issues. However adding members to the group (and that is certainly the main thing of Workspace) does not work. Whatever valid e-mail address I type in the field the result is a simple message box ‘Invalid e-mail address please type again’. Anybody an idea what is wrong?

55. Phil said,

    May 2, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

    What happened to the free offline client? There is no point in using Thinkfree if I can’t use a free offline client. That is what set you apart. I will just go back to google docs then.

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